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  Anonymous Message (YouTube) to Jehovah's Witnesses: #OpWatchtower - January 18, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  january 18, 2013. latest message from anonymous on #opwatchtower by anoninsurrection.. 700mb of files available at par:anoia.main directory of files in zip format.

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  Doubting Bro

  I agree. While there may be elements of truth, it sounds like there are some embelishments. If people have actual evidence then put it out there.
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  30 Hour Aux. Pioneering ... 2 or 3 times per year

  by RubaDub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  am i understanding this correctly?

  you can do the 30 hour package either 2 or 3 times per year, depending on when the circuit overseer visits.

  here is the way i get the new rules:.

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  Doubting Bro

  I say it moves to 30 for good Sept 2014
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  Why Are District Conventions Becoming Shorter?

  by Quendi in

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  Doubting Bro

  LOL - AuntConnie you crack me up!

  3 long f&(&( days. ugh.
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  Rock Center 1/17/2013 Expose on Scientology drew JW similarities

  by RagingBull in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did anyone watch the nbc program "rock center" last night?

  it dealt with scientology defectors and the stories, (shunning, tax-exempte etc) sounded very much like the watchtower/jehovah witnesses!.

  i sat with my family...and there was dead silence throughout the report.

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  The silence in my house was deafening as well. It was hard to not say much but I could see the wheels turning. It was especially heart breaking to watch that lady being shunned breakdown in tears about the family and friends she lost. But, good for them to take action and get their daughter out.
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  .....It is painful to watch...

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  Doubting Bro

  OTWO - strength to you as you deal with this situation. I think your doing a great job.
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  Whats the most bizzare way a JW has ever tried to "encourage" you?

  by highdose in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my case it was my best freind in the cong who decided to encourage me to answer up at the wt by... refusing to talk to me afterwards if i hadn't answered up!

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  Gladiator,

  That may well be the best story I've heard in a long time. I love how you turned it around on him.
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  2+2=5 cited this fact about the shrinking amount of elders. Perhaps the coming implosion?

  by wha happened? in

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  at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.

  there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.

  there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.

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  No, they actually sent 2 elders in the last year to other congos to help them.

  But, even though there are a bunch of younger elders, the ratio of MS is still not good. You want more MS than elders figuring that not all would make it to elder.

  Also, the congo average in FS is below the circuit average.

  Meeting attendence is 90% for the Sunday meeting and about 80% for the midweek meeting per a recent CO visit. That's not very good considering that with kids who are not publishers, you're looking at 150 potential people or so.

  So while the elder count and pioneer count look good, once you dig below the surface a little, to me you see a very apathetic group with a group of overperformers.
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  2+2=5 cited this fact about the shrinking amount of elders. Perhaps the coming implosion?

  by wha happened? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.

  there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.

  there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.

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  Doubting Bro

  jam - I"m in an English congo in the US. These things tend to ebb and flow. At one point, they had 5 elders, 2 ms and 2 pioneers. People move in and move away. One individual had a near death experience in his family that turned him from a not participating, former elder to now a current elder in the space of about 4 years.
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  2+2=5 cited this fact about the shrinking amount of elders. Perhaps the coming implosion?

  by wha happened? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.

  there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.

  there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.

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  Doubting Bro

  The congregation that I attend is a little different. I don't think its the norm but:

  around 130 publishers

  9 elders (1 - 80s, 1 - 70s, 1-60s- 3-50s, 1-40s, 2-30s) while there are some lazy ones (2) for the most part they divide things up fairly evenly. They don't get along with a definite break along generational (a real generation not a WT one because they're all the same generation according to the WT) lines.

  7 ms (1 -80s, 1-60s, 2-30s,3-20s) - Of this group, one in his 30s will likely be made an elder, if not this go around certainly next. He was a late bloomer for a born-in and wasn't appointed a ms until his late 20s. The other one in his 30s is a slacker. He was my CBS assistant way back in the day and I know he fakes FS and all his parts are worked up at the hall. He likely won't make the cut but is politically connected which is why he's never bothered about his lack of effort. The 2 older ones have maxed out. The 3 in their 20s are all elder material. They put plenty of time on their FS slips (or they give that impression) and are actually much better speakers than the majority of the current elders. If they all stay on their current course, I can see them appointed in their late 20s/early 30s.

  18 pioneers as well

  But, I would tell you that this congreation is likely one of, if not the most zealous in the circuit. Not to say they don't do what they want. I was just at a gathering (I hate that word, its a #%$# party) this weekend and believe me, folks let their hair down. Yet, people were at the meeting the next day (hungover but made it).

  I think if I were to look at the majority of the congos I'm familiar with in this circuit, most of them are how everyone else is describing. I'm pretty sure this one is an outlier
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  Are you now ashamed of how gullible you were as a JW?

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that you realise how idiotic some of the jw beliefs are/were, do you feel ashamed of how gullible you were to believe them?.

  if anything my past as an adult jw makes me understand how easily manipulated people are by the people and environment around them.

  and that even intelligent people can be influenced beyond what is rational..

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  Doubting Bro

  Bluesbrother -

  Shame and guilt are, in reality, useless emotions that keep living in the past rather than appreciating the present.

  Look back, learn from it and resolve never to be so gullible again..but enjoy the "now" and our cognitive freedom

  Very good advice! I know that's something I need to really work on....